simply because these instructions don’t say anything about infants (or women!). 1:7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace By no means! And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. His great grief, no doubt, led to the use of hyperbole, thinking himself so sinful that he was born that way. We can understand, then, that Paul uses a bit of hyperbole to make his point. With Luther we can say that, “No greater jewel … Did he mean that he would preserve the original papyrus and parchment upon which his Word was written? And he said unto him, “Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in Paradise,” (Luke 23:40-43). This “spiritual” act is not physical nor has any form of physicality. There is not enough space here to go into great detail,I pray that these few verses will make you think and study your Bible.Please do not take my word,look the verses up and read them for yourself. Argument: Baptism in water was only under John the Baptist, and was for repentance; Christ’s baptism is “with fire.”. The same thing is meant here. Water baptism. By immersion only. (NKJV). We can see, then, that even if immersion in water is not explicitly mentioned, all evidence points to that conclusion in all the passages cited. I think most Calvinists would go so far as to say that infants are indeed sinners, but Catholics and Orthodox (at least well-educated ones) would not. These questions have to be addressed eventually: Baptismal regeneration is the name given to doctrines held by major Christian denominations which maintain that salvation is intimately linked to the act of baptism, without necessarily holding that salvation is impossible apart from it. I agree with Dillon on this. You can learn more about what we believe about Baptism for the Dead below: The argument does not stand. When, then, should one be baptized? Answer: Let us consider 1 Corinthians 12:13: For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit. 2. G911 βάπτω baptō bap’-to For more information, please visit our webpage I also agree with your “God will decide” comment. Therefore, the absence of the term “baptism” in Romans 10:9-10 does not negate the need for baptism. And not only all English translations, ALL translations of the Bible have retained these “mistranslations or confusing wording”. Baptism is the immersion in water for the remission of sins: And Peter said unto them, “Repent ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38). Nevertheless, I am concerned that equations are being made that fits a 16th century theological argument but not the first century; the same Paul that talks about justification by faith apart from the works of the Law exhorts believers to obedience and sees baptism as the spiritual death and resurrection of the believer in Romans. Communion.org . Why is there not one single piece of evidence from the early Christians that indicates that ANYONE in the 800-1,000 years after Christ believed that: Water baptism is ONLY a public profession of faith/act of obedience; sins are NOT forgiven in water baptism? The ELCA website states: ELCA Lutherans believe that baptism addresses itself to the question of salvation. The example of Peter in Acts 10:47-48 is also telling: For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Answer: This argument is based upon an assumption about the term “household.” Within the texts in question, Acts 10:2 and Acts 16:24-38, we also read the following about these families: …a devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, who gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God always (Acts 10:2). Peter here is saying that baptism is not a bath. But there are verses that say if you don’t believe you are condemned (Mark 16:16). I don't beat about the bush about it at all. Also, Peter said they had received the Holy Spirit. Many denominations today teach that children and even infants must be baptized in order to be cleansed of sin. By your SAME logic I could say: Paul is saying BELIEF is not necessary because if it was then this verse should read something like In Him through our belief OR through our belief in Him. Psalm 51 represents a psalm, a form of poetry, and a psalm which was written by David after his sin with Bathsheba had been made known (cf. James is saying that faith without works is strong evidence of no salvation because salvation results in the striving for righteousness in works, which are a part of faith that evidences that your faith is genuine. In his sermon at We lost Grace. The Lord in his earthly ministry came only for the nation of Israel. (Matt.16:16-19)It was termed the”gospel of the Kingdom” (Matt.4:23&9:35).At the Tower of Babel,the whole world had turned it’s back on God.God chose Abraham to be the father of a new nation of people known as Israel,all were to become Priests TO THE Gentiles after the Kingdom had come(you can’t have a Kingdom without a King). But Cornelius was not a saved man because the Spirit came upon him; when he converted to the Lord Jesus and followed after Him he was saved. Christ has done it all. Furthermore, if baptism is necessary for salvation then babies who die in the womb, during birth, or right after birth could not be saved. Answer: The belief that baptism is necessary for salvation is also known as "baptismal regeneration." Psalm 119:160). But we know this cannot be. What is divine simplicity and is it biblical? However, baptism is very important and all believers should be baptized. That Cornelius was a believer in God is without doubt; that he was in the process of accepting the message of Peter is also accurate. It would be inappropriate to take instructions given to grown men and conclude that there is no provision made for infants (or women!) And it remains that baptism was the normative response of faith of those who heard the Gospel in the first century. Baptism allows one to be buried with Christ: …having been buried with him in baptism, wherein ye were also raised with him through faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead (Colossians 2:12). Baptists don't see it as necessary for salvation. You assume having the ability to turn to God is somehow in contradiction with God giving grace, as if one invalidates the other. They were speaking in tongues — which is a gift from God to believers (1 Cor. Can children understand fully the precepts of the Lord, especially infants? Obviously, they were not capable of expressing their faith or articulating their willful acceptance of the choice being made for them, but God commanded this nonetheless. The burden of proof is on you. Most denominations do not teach that individuals inherit specific sins from their parents, but instead believe that children are born with a sinful nature and therefore are sinners requiring baptism. Jas 2:17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. After all, it is likely that the one with whom you speak is near plenty of water, and the only hindrance would be a lack of faith or understanding in his or her need to be immersed in water for the remission of their sin. Do these verses teach that children are sinners? Answer: While it is true that Jews are the direct audience of Peter in Acts 2, the conclusion is not valid. And he called to him a little child, and set him in the midst of them, and said, “Verily I say unto you, Except ye turn, and become as little children, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven. The conclusion is clear: children do not have sin against them. Infant baptism and baptism as sprinkling or pouring are the later innovations and do not represent approved apostolic practice. Mark 16:16, a verse often quoted to prove baptism is necessary for salvation, is actually a proof of the opposite. And yet He left not himself without witness, in that he did good and gave you from heaven rains and fruitful seasons, filling your hearts with food and gladness.” Why is repentance first because it is the part that is salvation and everything afterwords is works of faith. (Matt.3:1-11,Luke 7:29&30).Notice in Matt.3:11,that there are three different types of baptism,it does not always include water.You can search the entire New Testament and never find the method used to baptize.Some who believe in immersion try to use Acts8:38,nothing in this verse even suggest that it was by putting the eunuch UNDER water.The Jews knew how to water purify from the Old Testament,the New Testament had not been written at this time. We learn that belief and confession are necessary for salvation in Romans 10:9-10 and repentance is necessary for salvation in Luke 13:5 and Acts 2:38. They posit unlikely situations, and are really self-defeating. It is also seen that the usual means of receiving the Holy Spirit was to have the “laying on of hands” from an Apostle (Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:1-6). I … Argument: Peter is preaching to the Jews, and his message is only relevant for the Jews. And he took a little child, and set him in the midst of them: and taking him in his arms, he said unto them, “Whosoever shall receive one of such little children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever receiveth me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.”. The only requirement in the Scriptures is for a person to be immersed in water; whether one is immersed in moving or non-moving water is a matter of liberty. Would we say that this verse denies the need for belief and confession, because it only mentions repentance? As it is written in 2 Peter 1:21: For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but men spake from God, being moved by the Holy Spirit. What Pentecostal denominations beside the "Oneness and Jesus only" believe baptism is necessary for salvation? He would not preserve his Word when it was translated into all the other languages of the world? Another set of verses applicable to this issue is 1 Cor. It’s entirely possible, but I would suggest that the Holy Spirit falling on Cornelius had very little to do with Cornelius per se and much more to do with Peter: as Peter concludes, God gave this uncircumcised Gentile the Holy Spirit just as He did Peter and the Apostles at the beginning, so who was he to stand in God’s way (Acts 10:47-48, 11:1-18)? Furthermore, it is likely that the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8:36-39 was baptized in some pool of water in the desert that would not really be “running water”. Notice, for instance, that the exile of Israel and Judah are carried out not under faithful kings like Hezekiah or Josiah, but unfaithful kings, Hoshea and Zedekiah (2 Kings 17-18, 25). Baptism is for Remission of Sin and is Necessary for Salvation. And they said, “Into John’s baptism.” Liberal Interpretation: He who believes “only” shall be saved; but he who is not baptized will not be condemned because water baptism is not essential in order to be saved. 5. (Luke 18:31-34,John 20:8&9). The arguments used, on the surface, seem to be powerful. Cornelius et al are given the Spirit as a testimony to Peter and the Jewish Christians with him of how God has accepted the Gentiles, as the interpretation in Acts 11:1-15 makes clear. Therefore the Scriptures do not substantiate the idea that the Holy Spirit seals at the moment of belief before baptism; the New Testament does not envision belief as fully manifest until baptism (Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38-39). This is actually a confirmation of the need for baptism: Christ used Himself as an example for baptism and people were baptized in His name with His approval while present on the earth. Answer: Greek prepositions can mean a whole host of possibilities based on context and usage. Answer: First of all, we should note that the term “baptizer” is foreign to the New Testament after discussion of John the Baptist. As good students of God’s Word (2 Timothy 2:15), we must always remember that the sum of God’s Word is truth (Psalm 119:160), and we should not introduce contradiction into the text. Baptism, then, should be done when one is mentally capable of doing so, realizing one’s sin and need for salvation in Christ. At the ascension, our Lord commanded the apostles, "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations. Church of Christ: needed. That is not the intent; the point is to show that a large number of people came out to see John. Ultimately, we are not out to speculate about what the text does not say, but to establish what the text does say is necessary: belief and baptism. Several church groups believe in baptismal regeneration; teaching that both repentant faith and water baptism are essential prerequisites to personal salvation. When Jesus commands us to become as little children so as to enter into the kingdom of heaven, He doesn’t say anything about entering into a sinless state. (Transubstantiation) Likewise, they also take baptism as a necessary requirement for salvation. Who can you trust? This passage shows that baptism happens after salvation. Yes, baptism requires faith, yet in the New Testament, there is never much of a time delay between faith and baptism. John Piper @JohnPiper. Yes, we die because sin entered the world through Adam, but that does not mean that we actually inherit Adam’s sin. The feeling that it should be omitted comes, on admission, only on doctrinal evidence from scholars, that, “well, baptism for salvation is not spelled out anywhere else, hence, this is a later addition.” In the end, all New Testament textual critics will be forced to admit that the argument against the text is without sufficient evidence, and that there is little reason to believe that the text is false. Jesus Himself says, “Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 19:14). Furthermore, the idea that baptism was required for Jews but not for Gentiles is at odds with Acts 10:47-48, Acts 16:31-33, and 1 Corinthians 1:14-16, all of which show that Gentiles also were baptized. How then in the New Testament were people saved? Archived. There are denominations that believe baptism is necessary for salvation. Then be baptized as a public profession of your faith.”. Exodus 20:5). Salvation is freely given gift. fully wet) (Strong’s Dictionary of Hebrew/Greek Words). Also, nonbelievers do not praise God. THAT IS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, MY FRIENDS! If baptism is necessary then this verse should read something like In Him and baptism and communion. Paul had a peculiar problem when preaching to the Gentiles; they had a tendency to worship a man with supernatural powers as a god. Some other denominations and if they believe water baptism is needed for salvation: Wesleyans: not needed. It is well-known that if an example is not valid, an argument cannot be supported by it. I actually feel I should be rebaptized with my new understanding of its importance. A person thus expresses his faith in and through the necessary baptismal rite, not apart from it. 4. Answer: 1 Peter 3:21 is yet another explicit statement showing the need for baptism, therefore, to refute it, one must turn to the manipulation of the text. And they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus, and thou shalt be saved, thou and thy house.” No one would argue that Jesus is saying here that His blood is shed “because your sins have been remitted.” Why, then, should Acts 2:38 be any different? Argument: 1 Corinthians 1:14-17 shows that baptism is not valid for today: Paul did not baptize, and Paul said to imitate him as he imitated Christ. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.”, And he sat down, and called the twelve; and he saith unto them, “If any man would be first, he shall be last of all, and minister of all.” I’m sorry, but these two Gospel passages will not serve as your proof-texts for this argument. That last question is central to the problem that you are struggling with here. In any case, your recognition that infant baptism is related to original sin is correct. Answer: Much has been said regarding the baptism of the Holy Spirit in Your email address will not be published. Argument: Baptism does not automatically mean that one is immersed in water; it can mean, and does for Christians, that one is baptized in the Holy Spirit. For the Apostles, to whom were committed the secrets of divine mysteries, knew that there is in everyone the innate stains of sin, which must be washed away through water and the Spirit. That said, I don’t believe that quibbling over modes of baptism brings glory to God. Note that Paul does not say here that belief and confession “alone” save. 3:27, “for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.” For we were debtors to none other except to Him, whose commandment we transgressed at the beginning.” (Against Heresies 3:22:4; 3:23:2; 5:16:3), Tertullian (c. 200 AD) Faith only reasoning would conclude that the walls fell down before Jericho was encircled for seven days. We can see, then, that Paul has previously been elevated beyond his position. Never let anyone add anything to just believing the gospel given to Paul,be it baptism,”good works”,sacraments or any other thing man can think of. As we just learned in John 1:12-13, salvation is completely of God. We can see, then, that the issue was not the nature of the baptism but the purpose of the baptism. He is... “Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?”. • People are saved by faith (Ephesians 2:8). Answer: We recognize that the power in baptism is not in the water, but in the appeal in faith to God for the cleansing from sin (cf. Nevertheless, immersing believers in water for the remission of sin does not originate from some sixteenth century Anabaptists; it is exactly what was done in the New Testament and persisted for the first few centuries. If you make baptism a requirement for salvation, you also require a baptizer, adding someone to the salvation that comes through Christ alone. Is baptism necessary for salvation? And how shall they hear without a preacher? Jesus indicates that if anyone desires to enter the Kingdom of Heaven, he or she must be like a little child. And the priest of Jupiter whose temple was before the city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the multitudes. We have already attained righteousness and that is why Paul calls the worst church in the New Testament saints meaning “holy”. The Roman Catholic Church does. How does the doctrine of Divine Simplicity relate to the doctrine of the Trinity? It is not necessary that a Christian speaks in tongues as proof of salvation. By no means! • Cornelius magnified God, thereby confessing (Acts 10:46) Is Baptism Necessary for Salvation? The only way to salvation is through faith, according to other Christians. The definition of “baptism” then, according to its use in the New Testament, does not allow for the idea of “sprinkling” or “pouring” or any idea of “modes” of baptism. • Cornelius believed (Acts 15:7) This word does not necessarily mean “for”; it could also mean “since,” and thus read, “be baptized since you have been forgiven of your sins.”. Its intent is not to purge someone of dirt, but to clean one’s conscience; after all, immediately after baptism, one is sinless. If we are to aspire to be as a child, but a child is still in sin, how can we enter the Kingdom? When you leave out the critical variable of obeying God’s word (even if it doesn’t agree with what your church happens to teach) you start to err. The conclusion is clear: children do not have sin against them. We were buried therefore with him through baptism unto death: that like as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life. Some theologians say that the image remains, but the likeness was lost. Religion . Getting an education - sitting through … So, baptism is important, but it is not necessary to be saved – otherwise, we would not be saved by faith, but by faith and a ceremony. (NKJV). John 3:5 . If the Greek language, correctly translated, states in the Bible that Baptism is only a public profession of faith as Baptists say, then why do the Greek Orthodox believe that the Greek Bible plainly says, in Greek, that God forgives sins in water baptism? “Original sin” is defined somewhat differently by different denominations, but the basic idea is that sin is inheritable. And this verse, I Peter 3:21 as, “Asking Christ into your heart in a spiritual baptism, which water Baptism symbolizes, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,”, And Mark 16:16 as, “He that believes will be saved, and then baptized, but he that does not believe will be condemned.”. The argument, generally, goes as follows: Argument: When Cornelius and the Philippian jailer believed, their whole households were baptized. Argument: Cornelius was saved before baptism. (Romans 1:4).Our gospel of Grace was first proclaimed by Paul. This moment varies by the individual, and some who have mental handicaps may never reach that moment.”. Argument: Baptism is symbolic. The technical definition of baptizo is somewhat irrelevant. Argument: The Apostles were not baptized, yet they were certainly saved. The gospel they proclaimed was that Jesus is the Son of God(God in the flesh)and that he came to be Israel’s Messiah(Savior) and King. In many passages it is clear that baptism in the Spirit is not under consideration. Acts 1:4-5, Acts 2:1-36, Joel 2:28-32), and when God showed Peter that Gentiles were to receive the Word of life (Acts 10:44-45, 11:15-16). I can’t express strongly enough how tortured your logic is here. Your formulas are a little off. Scripture: Mark 16:16 “He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. Dear Baptist/evangelical brothers and sisters, your doctrine is very well thought out and very reasonable…but it is wrong. Just gain perspective :) Reading the … I just recently began seeing baptism exactly as you lay it out here. Apart from that, the very idea that the grace of baptism should be withheld not only from infants, but also from those with mental handicaps is somewhat horrific to me. 3. It should also be noted that since “infant baptism” is indeed of no value, since an infant has no sins to remit, infants are not really baptized but simply get wet. It is ironic that the Westminster Confession of Faith (1646; Church of England, Westminster Assembly) is not on or easily found on their websites. (This may reflect their commitment to the ―Bible only‖ and suspicion of ―creeds‖ which they believe lead to doctrinal impurity.) Did he mean that he would preserve his word in the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek only? The Apostle Paul understood the Gospel, the message of the saving work of Christ, to be so important that he said: In the face of the doctrine of baptismal regeneration we must consider precisely what makes a teaching "another gospel... than what we have preached to you." It would also mean that anyone who receives Christ on his deathbed and dies before getting baptized would go to hell. For example, the thief on the cross (Luke 23:39-43), Saul on the Damascus road (Acts 9:1-18) and the people gathered in Cornelius’ house (Acts 10:24-48) all experienced salvation without the necessity of baptism. Water baptism is certainly important and required of every believer. They use passages such as Mark 16:16 and Acts 2:38 to substantiate this teaching. Was Paul crucified for you? Let us examine the passage that Paul quotes in Romans 3:10ff, Psalm 53:1-3: The fool hath said in his heart, “There is no God.” Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity; There is none that doeth good. 15:1-4. Etymology concerns the origins and root meanings of words, but … ©  [A Study of Denominations] - WordPress Theme by Kadence WP, The Church Treasury, II: Other Considerations. (Isaiah 49:6 & 61:6,Zechariah 8:22,23).All would need to be purified (baptized) in the same manner as their priests,the tribe of Levi. The Churches of Christ (COC) and the Christian Church (CC) have been among the most adamant in holding that baptism is necessary for the forgiveness of sins. On account of his transgression Man was given over to death; and the whole human race, which was infected by his seed, was made the transmitter of condemnation. …Indeed, through the first Adam, we offended God by not observing His command. Since no man can speak of himself when prophesying, but is guided by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:21), Caiaphas must have spoken by the Holy Spirit, and therefore the Holy Spirit was with him. The “all” of Romans 3:10 and 3:23 refers to all people who are capable of knowing good from evil, and not every creature. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.” Scripture: Acts 22:16 ‘And now why are you waiting? The context demonstrates that Paul’s point is about the unity of Christians, how Christians are to work together in one body; therefore, Paul is not speaking about the nature of baptism per se, but that when we were immersed in water, we did so by one Spirit and were brought into one Body. http://steve-finnell.blogspot.com, Hi,the gospel that was preached by the Apostles in the book of Acts,was under the guidance of the Holy Ghost.Peter and his fellow Apostles were filled with the Holy Ghost,Acts 2.Those Apostles preached the Gospel with the Holy Ghost sent down from Heaven,those Apostles were also eyewitnesses of his majesty.Jesus also shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs,being seen of them forty days,and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of god Acts 1:3.The Apostles give us the pattern for all times,on how to be saved.There is only one true Gospel,that was preached by the Apostles with the Holy Ghost sent down from Heaven.Water Baptism for the remission of sins was part of the Gospel.Acst 2:38.Thanks steve. All of this raises an important question; is there an intellectual threshold for Grace? (Exodus 29:4,Leviticus 8:6).When Jesus came to the nation of Israel,all who believed in him had to be baptized. John clearly says that Caiaphas “prophesied” regarding Jesus, since he was High Priest that year. For example, on the Day of Pentecost, the apostles taught that water baptism is " for the remission of sins " (Acts 2:38). To answer the question, we must... Divine simplicity is the teaching that God is without parts, but is instead a single metaphysical essence. We must look at the passages and see if there are any indicators regarding what is under discussion. So, does this all mean that the work of Christ is not completed with the cross, the resurrection, conviction by the Holy Spirit, repentance, and acceptance of Christ as savior? It is clear, then, that New Testament baptism is immersion. 10:2 the Israelites were baptized into Moses. Or did God mean that he would preserve his Word…the message/the words…the Gospel: the free gift of salvation, and the true doctrines of the Christian Faith? …for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God. We can read this passage consistently with the rest of Scripture: sin is not only present but also permeates the world, death is present in the world because of sin, and that climate will compel all capable persons to sin, but sin is not inherited. Jewish male-children entered into the Old Covenant on the eighth day of their life. One last thing. (Matt.10:5-7,Rom.9:4&5,Rom.15:8, Acts 3:25&26)The Apostles could not have proclaimed the resurrection gospel when the Lord sent them out,because it had not been revealed to them. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. They cannot because praise to the true God is a deep spiritual matter that is foreign to the unsaved (1 Cor.
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